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I drive e-cars a lot. So I know. GolfCarts are good. And my mall-taxis are good.

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I do not have to charge the batteries!!!

Dreams are no reality. The reality is: electric cars are BLOODY BAD! They are expensive TRASH. GARBAGE. BRAND NEW FACTORY JUNK! Because they simply do NOT work reasonably. They burn money for nothing.

But of course Chick's News Network and EVERY FOOL in the universe PLUS very intelligent, clever, smart people in the auto-industry are telling us they are fantastic, they are as fast as racecars, they are great fun, and, of course, they save mankind and the planet. There is only the little problem with the ....

IRRATIONAL COSTS! PLUS: NONE works GOOD!

April 1 2016: 115.000 Good humans queuing for the Tesla Model 3 downpay 1000 US$ for preorders to save the universe, starting in 2017. They promise the 35.000 US$ car can do 215 miles range. And fast charging. And delivery by the end of 2017. That's about 2 years, in 21 months.

There are experts saying the range will drop down to 135 miles. Not very convincing if You have to dicert for charging, losing 60 miles range, and 2.5 hours, at least. 2 hours to reach the plug and return. Half hour charging. IF You are lucky.

April 3: more than 250.000 pre-orders. Crazy? Not even motor-journalists have tested the car. It does not exist. They want to start mass-production from scratch. Would You pay for a car that is only promises? You don't know whether it works. No proven quality. Is that smart? You are the guinea-pig? ENJOY!!!

You can google the problems of Tesla's Model S: the doors do not work, if I got that right.

Silly people buy hope? Smart people only buy REALITY!

I say: they are fooling the good humans, they are fooling their customers. They will NOT be able to sell the cars in 2017. The cars will NOT have the promised capabilities in common everyday-conditions - i.e. rain, air-con running, on snow with heating, in the dark, run by a couple with only one child and luggage.

cALCULATION: Tesla says they have 250.000 preorders. They say they make "more than 10 billion". So each car costs Tesla 40.000$. Buying price is 35.000 US$ for the basic version. The dealers will ask their share. Hmmmmm. In case NOTHING goes wrong. No recalls? Questions?

Ok: I understand they will not have dealers, they will have branches. Like Mercedes Benz. In top-locations in city-centers. May cut provisions. But not to ZERO.

Is it our wish to pay attention to the fact that this (mis-)calculation understands the cars. It does not understand the cost of development, the car factory, the battery factory. PLUS 613 charging locations in Europe

.....(meaning You will lose a lot of range diverting Your route to recharge. While You are waiting - for HOW LONG? in a Restaurant? Or in a Hotel - room? They say quick-charging takes 30 minutes)....

The money that is already lost with the predessors? Does this explain why Elon Musk is shakey, stammering while doing the most important "presentation (is it a "presentation" if they put three cars on stage, and nobody can drive only one of these?), doubtful body language? Is he afraid he cannot control the avalanche he kicked off any more?

Is that the reason why Tesla shares are weak? Because stock-brokers, banks and investors can do simple mathematics?

Today, they do not even have

35.000 US$ Tesla 3 promises 215 miles range!

Why do smart people promote the foolish dreams? Because they have to! Because they MUST survive with their companies, they must save the jobs and the welfare of their staff, the incomes of their workers. Since they cannot fight politics which are foolish, weird politicians who already ENFORCE the electric nonsense with LAWS, they have to go with the flow. If You can't beat them You MUST join them. Simple rule. So the only concern of smart people is: HOW can we survive the hystery, the neurosis, the romantic dreams of a saved world. How can we still make profits, and, if possible, INCREASE profits?

Only ONE of several basic problems: There is NO reasonable power-source!

We need batteries as urgent as we need oxygen. Half our life is run by batteries: in smartphones, tablets, laptops, watches, toothbrushs, vibrators. We LOVE them. Even though they are bad! They are so bad because they are not powerful enough. We have to recharge them all the time. They are by FAR to heavy. They are being made of heavy metals, like lead. They are poisonous. They are difficult to dispose of.

The purpose of the battery is to store energy. The more the better. If You store a lot of energy and You release it by accident and not slow, but fast things get REALLY hot: You can have simple fire, or even a more sophiticated explosion.

You burn ten liters of gasoline and You can have fun. You blow 50 liters in the air and ignite it: You can start a desaster!

Sometimes they are dangerous. If they were more powerful they would be even more dangerous. Airlines hate batteries because of these risks. They deny to fly them whenever possible.

England's "Daily Mail"or all: Avoid flying Li-Ion-batteries!

But of course they cannot deny passengers to carry them. And this is usually safe. The problem is cargo. What they actually do is to deny transport of electric sel-balancing scooters like Segway, Freego and so on. I tried, I failed.

Airlines will probably deny to fly e-cars. I have no information whether they fly these terrible new "Formula E" - racecars.

I don't think they do. The raceteams themselves look upon these batteries as quite dangerous. That's why they cool them with dry ice when they are not on track.

The batteries in aeroplanes are safe, usually. But that makes them really expensive, several times the price of a comparable regular one. Only Boeing had to ground the dreamliners because of dangerous batteries.

Boeing had to ground it's complete fleet of 787 dreamliners because of dangerous batteries from January 16, 2013 until April 19, 2013. Cost a lot of money. Now the dreamliners are safe again.

wikipedia: 787 dreamliners grounded: battery-problems

Maybe the american electric car Tesla is the best car in the market. So let's look at it.

Why the Tesla car is so BAD?

WHAT do You get when You buy a Tesla?

What You get is a bad car for a lot of money! PLUS You buy ALL the lies for a lot of money!

There are THREE essential lies You buy, THREE LIES You pay a lot for:

First LIE is about range/endurance.

As far as I can see NO journalist worldwide tells us Tesla's range figures are good. Because they are NOT.

Second LIE is about recharging time.

As far as I can see NO journalist worldwide tells us Tesla's figures for recharging times are good. Because they are NOT. Not even with those special star-wars-hyperspace-superchargers.

THIRD LIE is about battery-life.

What else do we KNOW about batteries? They age!

They age? They age! Meaning: Especially if You use them regularly and have lots of recharging cycles (and even more using fast-quick-power-charging!) they lose capacity. After 1 year You have significantly less power, and after 2 years You need to replace them completely, usually.

In an ordinary planet-saving-hybrid that will set You back about 3000 bucks, every two years. If You use the car. If You don't You don't.

As far as I can see NO journalist worldwide tells us Tesla's battery figures are good. Because they are NOT.

The batteries in my phone are down after two, three years. The more I use it, the more I recharge it the earlier they are down. And not only that: Already after one year they significantly lose capacity.

So: What the journalists in whom we trust MUST tell us is this: performance, range in the beginning. After one year. After two years. Replacement-costs after two years!!!!!!

Then there are those things the test drivers do hardly tell us: because they wish and chose to blur our views!

Is this why we look into car-media? To let them fool us?

Ok, Let us look ourselves for what we know for sure: The Tesla's are not only bloody expensive, the Tesla's are bloody heavy! They weigh two point two tons! This is the first and most awful sin against construction - laws! It means You have to accelerate the additional (unnecessary?) weight, You have to decelerate it, You have to pay to move it.

Regarding petrol cars the rule of thumb is: You need to burn 1ltr more gas on 100km for every 100 kg You add in (cargo) weight. This means if You load half a ton = 500 kg in a combustion engine car You increase fuel consumption by 5 ltrs/100km. So You MUST pay for the weight You move. Physics.

To me, as a weightenthusiast in girls as well as in cars the regular cars are already to heavy, nowadays: they weigh in 1.5 tons. For whatever reason. I want cars to weigh 0.9 tons! For reasonable resons.

Now Tesla and many more good humans tell us we are fine with TWO point TWO ton-cars. I do not think we are. I do not buy that.

I am not to concerned about car - accidents. Because today's cars are pretty safe. All of them. But I do have three concerns: I do not wish to be hit by a sea-container (I had that already!), not by a SUV, and not by a Tesla. Because being hit head-on by a Tesla sitting in a normal car is like being hit by a bulldozer. Because of he weight of the Tesla! It's the weight of a SUV, without the size, without the space. In case of such an accident I'd rather be in the Tesla than inside it's opponent. IF the body of the Tesla is as safe as a conventional one. Ok: sooner or later we will see Tesla-crash-tests.

Since You do not only have to ACCELERATE weight, You have to DECELERATE it, too! VulgO: You NEED brakes. Right? Got that?

Now: You brake Your car down from 60mph/100km/h in about - let's say: 38 meters, 115 feet. EVERYBODY already considers 40 meters/120 feet stopping distance as BAD. A Porsche 911 stops to zero after 33 meters.

And EVERYBODY would call a stopping distance of 1 2 0 meters = 3 6 0 feet dangerous, in any usual car.

But since this IS the stopping distance - Top Gear uk ng (uk = United Kingdom, England, ng new generation, AFTER JC. JC = Jeremy Clarkson) says that! - of a Tesla WHY does NOBODY call this car D A N G E R O U S???

But things are even WORSE: if You do that once, You are ok. Are You? Maybe. Probably NOT. If You need the brakes a second time brakes are already fading. INCREASING stopping distance SIGNIFICANTLY! Top Gear UK says: You try to brake the third time You do not have brakes anymore!

If a car test driver would find that in a regular car he would call this car a KILLER. Right?

I think this is the reason why until now as far as I know NOBODY takes an e-car to the race-track, to the NUERBURGRING. Where You can take any production-car easily without killing the brakes and Yourself completely. And: QUICKLY, immediately.

Porsche says, they build the greatest car in the universe, as usual: The "Mission E".

There is only one minor problem: they can design it, but they cannot build it. Because, I tell You that, IT DOES NOT WORK. Ouch.

Now, WHAT only can they do? They can promise us it might work in 2020. And then they can build it. That's what they do. They say. HALLELUJA!

Since I am not finished: TO BE CONTINUED!

2019: I drive my first e-car: Renault Zoe

The Zoe is the best car I ever drove that I would never buy!

Short test-resummee: The Zoe is a very good car. Even though it is a small car - and I HATE small cars! It is the best selling e-car in Germany in 2019.

Sounds great! But the numbers are NOT: The Zoe started in 2013, and until 2018 they could only sell 18.000 units: in 7 years: this is an average of 2.400/year.

THE Zoe? NO!!! The Z.E. 40 R110 version is the one you want, offering 107bhp. You do NOT want the small battery, You do NOT want less range and You do NOT want less power. NEVER!!!!!!

How can anybody want the basic Zoe with ONLY HALF the energy-capacity of the top-version???? Since even the top-model with 41kWh instead of only 22kwh is insufficient!!! The top-version is at least 4200euro more, the monthly battery-fee is 69 instead of 59euro.

There is sth strange about the battery-fee, sth I did not understand: The monthly fee is limited to 600km per month or 20 km's a day, adding up to 7500km's a year. The average usage of cars in Germany is 12-15.000 km a year! So they think You won't do more than that anyway? What happens if You do more? You have to pay more, probably!

BEFORE You drive away You should be aware that You are entering an electric car. Meaning this car has two batteries. The 12V-additional battery won't do You harm. The 400V-battery is a high power high voltage pack. And this one can harm You, so You better avoid the risk! When regular cars easily pass a flooded part of the road You better don't: You keep standing and wait until the water-level drops sufficently!!

! ! ! N E V E R ! ! !

You can do this with any ordinary car - do NOT try it with an e-car!!!

Since I assume that this is a problem not only of the Zoe, but of ALL electric cars:

NEVER take an electric car into a flooded area! If You are already there: bad luck! At least You should make sure Your garage is not in a risky location! If not You better park Your e-car on the roof.

With such a car You ar NOT allowed to drive in water deeper than the lower wheel rim!!! You should be safe in ordinary rainfalls. But NEVER carry on when the road is flooded! Nobody told me what happens if You do, but I think the idea of a 400V-high power current running thru the car is not attractive.

Since we are reading the manual: Zoe-drivers must NEVER leave a handicapped person in the car! "They could activate functions like the window motors."

And: "A sensor at the steering-wheel detects the desired direction." LOL!

Then: You shouldn't tow an electric car since the motors can overheat.

The pic is showing a Tesla

The really funny thing about the manual is that Renault uses drawings instead of photographs. Maybe the boss has a love-affair with the artist. Maybe they think they show the idea better. I don't think so: I think photographs are better, and much easier, cheaper to make. I wouldn't mind some cartoons, though. But I think never ever in the history of automobiles did anybody have the idea to create a manual with funny parts. Except VW? In the fifties they had funny little smart men in their manuals for the early beetle.

The Zoe is equipped with tire pressure monitoring. And it has Cruise Control.

Approaching the car carrying the keycard Your Zoe knows You are there in about less than 7m. This allows You to open the door pressing a small button at the handle. All doors unlock. Approaching the back door with Your shopping cart You have to press the button on the key-hanger to unlock the boot/trunk.

There's another button You might like: You can start the AirCon from outside without having to enter and touch the HOT car that had to much sunshine. You wait a few minutes until the car is good to enter without burning You.

Again there's sth strange that I didn't expect: my idea was You enter the car, press the accelerator, and off You go. Wrong! This is NOT the case. Since You must start the engine! Just as You start a combustion-engine! For whatever reason.

There's the traditional combustion engine Start/Stop button at the steering wheel, and You have to start the engine while pressing the brake pedal down, like You do it in an ordinary automatic transmission car.

Then the dashboard switches on, and You are operational.

The salesman told me to switch on the car, and to switch it off before I leave it.

Since You cannot hear the engine in on-mode I forgot that. Twice!

On my way back to my Zoe I learned the hard way that this was NOT a good idea! First thing I noticed was that the driving lights were on. Then I learned that the doors were open and the car was still in on-mode. Meaning, that everybody who knew that the headlights indicated operational mode could just enter and drive away without the keycard!

RENAULT Keycard mit „Keyless Entry&Drive“

Even though I tried to remember to care for the locking signal when leaving the car it happened again.

Reading the manual two weeks later I learned that idea was even worse. MUCH WORSE! Since the manual says explicitly:

NEVER leave the car without the gear-lever in "P" - position AND without switching it OFF!!! SERIOUS DANGER TO YOUR HEALTH!

I survived a Zoe?

Ups. How lucky was I? They are not telling You what can happen. And I cannot tell since I wasn't hurt. Well, they say there's SERIOUS risk of fire, serious wounds and heavy, deadly electric shock! Sth You'll never experience in a regular car.

So the usual procedure MUST ALWAYS be: gear lever to "P", switch engine OFF. Get out, listen to the "Lock"-signal when leaving more than 5 t0 7 meters!!! Then You are fine, and the Zoe is.

Otherwise Your car is everybody's darling :)

Essentially I DO believe this is a SERIOUS software - flaw! Since the car knows when the engine is stopped, OFF and You are leaving the 5m (6 ft) -Radius so it locks it should lock as well if You forgot to switch the car OFF!

I was surprised that the Renault-test-drivers did not see nor understand the problem!!!

The Tesla-guys did: If You leave the Tesla - You can implement the app in Your phone authorizing access! - it switches the system/the engine off. Even sitting in the car (sleeping) the system is switched off after 15 minutes.

The Zoe is BIG enough: inside. Outside it is only 4.08 meter. I am 1,85cm and I had enough space, even plenty of head-space in the driver's seat. And it's a 4-door-saloon with sufficient, though not plenty knee-space in the rear. Plus a nice boot/trunk in front of door no.5 with easy access. You do not have to lift Your luggage high. While it feels big from the inside, exterior dimensions aren’t as wide as you expect, making it easy to park in tricky spots.

The interior is comfy, You find everything You need, AirCon, Navigation. The Nav-System is TomTom, and I didn't like it, I've seen better ones. I missed several motorway-exits because of late or not clear information. Might not be a problem if You use the car every day.

But it is still not up-to-date any more: there's no line-/lane-assistance, and it is not really helpful finding a good charging-hotspot: an essential feature missing!

Your best choice is to pair Your Android-phone via bluetooth and use Google maps! The Renault TomTom is not acceptable. It's a shame!

The car has good seats, and I am sensible for bad ones: I drove for hours, and I was still fine. I LOVED the good sounds of the Bose-Media-System, even though I'd like more power it is powerful enough for most customers, I guess. There are split seats in the rear, so You can sit a passenger behind the driver and still use the complete width on the passenger side to load thru. It is a nonsense to split the seats the other way with two seats left behind the driver and restricted space to load thru.

I drove the car in daylight, only, so I cannot judge the quality of the headlights. The weather was hot, but I was ok with the windows open. I did not use AirCon, wipers, rear window heating: You need all these when the weather is bad.

The car has automatic light adjustment: You don't have to care Yourself. I could not see if the changes outside worked properly. Inside I was not really happy: on entering a tunnel in daylight I could not see the instruments any more, and leaving the tunnel it took to much time for the system to re-adjust to daylight.

Nowadays NO car should come without a rear camera. The Zoe does, and there's no excuse for that: a wireless cam costs 15 US$, if you buy it as an aftermarket item to upgrade Your car. So it costs about nothing for a car manufacturer to pre-install these. It is ridiculous! Renault offers the cam as an extra, I didn't ask for the price.

I experienced the visibility as good while driving. You can well judge where the car ends, and despite the missing rear camera there's a distance alarm when You are reversing, with symbols in the multi-media-display.

In regard of ergonomics occasional drivers cannot read a 600-pages-manual for a short go: You should easily find the right buttons where You expect them to be. This worked overall, but there were also some buttons I could not identify without the manual.

There is an "Eco-" button: if You miss power You should check whether the car switched into eco-mode to save energy.

The car produces energy when braking and downhill. I found a few km's range driving downhill, but I had to accelerate the car because when just letting it roll it slowed down deriously despite a steep slope, and I blocked other traffic.

In this situation the Tesla switches the brake-lights on, so You give a permanent brake-warning to the traffic that follows You. Then they don't see when You're braking down hard.

The car is easy and even fun to drive, You do not really feel the high weight of 1575kg, 1.6 TONS: this is a lot for a small car. Everybody knows these are damn heavy. To heavy, but there's nothing they can do, in 2019 still, to bring the weight of the electric stuff, the weight of the heavy batteries down.

Let me give You my general position regarding weight: and this is about physics. Low weight is good, and high weight is bad. You need weight in a tow-truck, or in a crane. In everything else that moves You don't need it, so You don't want it: Not in cars, bicycles, motor-bikes, boats, planes.

In a car more weight means more all around wear, longer breaking distance, less speed or less safety reserves on winding roads, less acceleration.

Nevertheless: You do NOT really feel the weight while driving. I did not do a full-stop-emergency-brake, though. But the car is vivid at the green traffic light, it accelerates not brutal, but properly. It's ok, maybe even fun to drive. You can overtake at cross country speeds of about 100 km/h, and the top-speed of 135 km/h may be enough for most users.

The acceleration is about 13.5 seconds zero - 100 km/h. This does not make You and me happy. But it will be enough for the average e-car saviour of the universe. In about 1975 I had a Ford Escort GT with 64hp/PS and a Top-Speed of 160 km/h. The dog-bone. It weighed maybe 870kg, don't remember. It needed 13-14ltr gasoline for 100km.

This car was cheaper, had a bigger trunk/boot, was fun to drive. And it had more range. But it was not as modern inside, and it had no Air/Con. The Escort even performed well in rallye/racing.

In this aspect I am willing to give the Zoe a pro despite it's heavy-weight-status. This car is not made to be sporty on the racetrack. It's a city-mover. Not more. Not less. You use it to go to work, bring the kids to school, to go shopping. You don't take it to Switzerland, Austria or Italy for a holiday, and especially not for a short trip.

You might not even take it to a mall or an extraordinary restaurant that is 80 km away. Certainly not in winter, maybe even not in summer when the weather is bad, cold, and it's dark on the way home: because You need lights, heating, wipers then.

And You want to sit and eat, socialize, shop, not charge.

So let's talk range!

As I already experienced I had a range of 250km under optimum conditions: daylight, 30 degrees celsius, no rain, no heating, no aircon, nav and radio only.

In a gasoline-burner You get the best range travelling at constant speeds of about 120km/h, 80mph. Again You have to understand that the best conditions for an e-car is in the city! You do not accelerate hard, if You stop energy-usage is immediately close to zero. Driving on the motorway close to top-speed means max battery usage!

A constant speed of 120 km/h cuts down the range significantly where You need it most! If You have to travel only 400km You already have to make a plan. You have to recharge. If You're lucky You only need to sit for 1 hour, giving You another 100 km plus. If You are lucky! And IF You arrive, and don't need to go here and there, but go to sleep, and charge!

You will not like the procedure. In 1975 with the Escort You just went, no problem, no second thought necessary!

But it comes WORSE: if the temperature drops to, let's say: 5 degrees celsius. This does cut a bit off Your range, but not really much. The REAL problem is charging: because then You already have to spend TWO hours in the ice-cold car to gain another 100 km. Then You'll start to HATE it.

Funny: the driver of a Maserati blocked the left lane without reason. When I took the right lane to pull up his ego suffered and he accelerated, then blocked me again and cut in my way to reach the exit of the motorway. There are not only small cars with fools behind the wheel.

When I picked up the car it said the range was 275km. I wanted to do some city-hopping, plus a joy-ride to the Feldberg next to Frankfurt in Germany, distance 65km. Adding up to 130km's. When I returned the car the next day I had 35km's left. A few hundred meters off the dealer site a warning light showed up: Battery charge not possible.

I thought it was ok to go since this was not a problem affecting the safety or the health of the car. The dealer said it might be a problem of the regular 12V-battery. A guess. He checked, and told me he could not see the warning light, and the car charged properly. Maybe, maybe not.

I guess in a big city You can go down to a range of 20km before looking for a charging spot. There were some around where I was. Living in the province or travelling on the motorway/BAB I would not go below 40 km's to be safe.

The dealer said it would take about 2 hours to recharge for another 270km's. But not all charging spots offer charging with the necessary 21Ah. And at home You usually have only very slow charging with 230V household AC. If You want Your own hotspot the infrastructure must be installed by an expert, costs unknown.

Renault rents the battery to You at a monthly cost of 69 euro (small 22kwh-version 59euro). This adds up to 818 euro/year (small 708). So if the battery must be replaced after 2 years You paid 1636 euro (small 1416). I think they do that if the battery is down to 70% of it's nominal capacity. BUT: this already means that for a few months before exchange Your range will go down to only 200km's - in good conditions!

Since this is a Renault-calculation You cannot guess the REAL price of the battery-exchange understanding the price plus installation. You will not be able to use an aftermarket-battery: You are married with Renault.

Since I cannot say anything about the reliability of electric cars compared to combustion burners I started a question in Germany's biggest car forum.

After one week I cannot say that there are answers which allow judgements. One guy though hinted to a funny problem: since he hardly used his brakes due to recuperation his discs corroded and the technical surveillance did not clear the car, lol. Another one said he had serious problems with his cars due to bad roads in Germany: bearings, dampers, wheel bearing components. He expected this to be worse with an e-car because of the significantly higher weight.

Another guy reported the same "battery cannot be charged" - problem I had suffered in his car. He had to visit the dealer and have it fixed. He had no costs, but he estimated that out of warranty the repair might have been 350 euro.

So I would not have a general problem using such a car every day. IF the battery-problem were solved. Which is NOT the case. And it will not be the case soon, in just a few years. Not before 2025, I'd say. Maybe not even then!!! As my prophecy was still a few years ago.

Since as far as I am up-to-date they could not even solve the problem in a scientific-laboratory-environment. Which means it takes 10 years more to bring it into the market for a reasonable price.

So let's talh RANGE, finally. Just for comparison: in a car that takes 6ltr/100km with a 65ltr tank You get a range of 1000km plus 5ltr reserve. Refueling in 10 minutes. WITHOUT special Michelin Energy E-V tires.

Zoe's ranges

Let me say first that the given ranges look not very realistic to me, since the given range of 250km in optimum conditions - no AirCon, no heating, no wipers, no window heating, driver only!!! - was realistic in mixed conditions.

The range will do down significantly if You drive shopping on a cold. rainy day, carrying You, Your wife and Your 30kg kid to the supermarket, returning with 30kg of goods. Using lights, the wipers, heating, rear window heating!!!!

Then: this was a dealer show car. If they cannot serve the paper-range in this customer-showdown how can You in everyday-use???

Renault says the Zoe does.....

In 20 degrees celsius at speed 50 up to 388km. speed 70 325km, at speed 100 236km. Speed 130 delivers only 163 km.

So: even if we consider a range of 388 km in optimum - city -traffic as possible we don't care. Because NOBODY does 350km/day in the city. You need the range outside the city. Shopping in a mall 50km away. Visiting a theatre, a restaurant 50 km away. Then You're already in trouble. So You leave the restaurant, and then You sit 2 hours in the car charging - IF You find a GOOD charging hotspot!

And You will NEVER cover 700km at around -5 degrees, with wife, kid, and luggage, to go skiing. Having to recharge 6 times. Since Your holiday already ends before You arrive.

MY, the CoC V E R D I C T :

If You want to save the planet and the universe this is the car for You.

If You do not more than 7500km a year this might be the car for You.

If You forget that there are cheaper cars with good range less weight and no charging You may want this one.

If you only need a city-hopper You will like this one.

If You enjoy to sleep regularly in the comfy seats while the car charges You will enjoy the Zoe.

WHY wouldn't I buy such a good car, a car that I like, essentially? Because of the five BIG problems which are still unsolved:

weight, charging, aging batteries, range. PRICE!

To be continued!

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